What is a Photograph

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By MickS

Parndon Mill

Parndon Mill taken with a Shen Hao camera on 5x4 inch, Ilford FP4+ film, Scanned on an Epson PERFECTION 4990 PHOTO  into a computer and digitally manipulated with Photoshop CS4 to give the impression of an old photograph taken with a pinhole camera
Parndon Mill taken with a Shen Hao camera on 5x4 inch, Ilford FP4+ film, Scanned on an Epson PERFECTION 4990 PHOTO into a computer and digitally manipulated with Photoshop CS4 to give the impression of an old photograph taken with a pinhole camera

What is a Photograph?

So, what is a photograph, do digital cameras take photographs, do film cameras take photographs? I suppose the answer has to be sometimes.

All right, that needs clarification and is rooted in the definition and concept of what is a photograph; photos – light, graphein – to write, by extension, to draw with light.

If I set up my Shen Hao, and expose a sheet of film in it, then develop the film; I have a negative image drawn with light. If I then set up my Olympus E-420, focus it, there on the rear-viewing screen is an image drawn with light, click the shutter and the image is captured. That looks convincing, both images drawn with light, photographs. If only it were that easy; the real problem comes when we want a tangible, positive image that we can stick in an album, or on the wall, or take to work and show our mates, in other words, a photograph.

I work, mainly, with film, I develop it myself and use a photographic enlarger to produce positives; the whole process is photography from start to finish. Light forms the latent image on the negative and the development process reveals it. The negative is put in an enlarger, light is shone through it and a latent image is produced on a piece of light sensitive paper, the development process reveals the positive image, light is totally involved with the creation of the image.

However, what if you don't process your own, you may use one of the many high street developing and printing outlets, some use inkjet, some actually print with chemicals, in a mechanised way, your pictures, will they be photographs? I would say the ones produced chemically are, just. You may not have an enlarger and you scan your negatives into a personal computer, edit them and then print out on an inkjet printer. Is that photography, sorry, except for the negative, the answer has to be no, it is printing, squirting inks on to a piece of paper, not producing an image from a direct action of light.

So what about an image from a digital camera, the images on that little card that pops out of the camera are drawn with light, it makes no difference whether we use film or a sensor plate, the light sensitive receptor causes the formation of an image from light striking it: drawn with light.

How do we display these images on the card? If we feel flush, I suppose we could have one of those fancy, electronic frames, is that photography, probably, the image even looks as if it's drawn with light. We could just view the images on the monitor screen, photography, yes; light plays its part in drawing the image. It’s not very convenient to drag your mates into that cubbyhole under the stairs, where you keep your computer and monitor, when they want to see your holiday snaps.

We may be on the way to a legal definition. During the early part of 2009, the British police, in one of their many guideline leaflets for police officers when dealing with photographers, used the words, '…it is not illegal to take photographs or digital images in a public place…' Clearly, a distinction is made there.

There is one way (there are probably more but I’m too thick to think of them) where digitally produced images, whether from film or electronic card can be considered true photography, but it will require dragging yourself, your computer and digital images back to the early part of the 19th century.

Use a photo editor to make a negative image of, say, 7x5 inches and print it on to ordinary, A4 writing paper or overhead projection film. Look at my cyanotype or Salt Print Hubs, telling how to do it and what chemicals to get, follow the instructions, and safety rules, it’s dead easy, and fun.

That's an interesting blend of technologies, and a real photograph ala Herschel or Talbot.

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World-Traveler 23 months ago

I read about the policy above regarding taking photographs in a public place. I find that almost where ever I travel, in countries other than the US, people, both natives of the country, as well as tourists find I am worthy of a photo capture. I do not think I am all that photo worthy but others seem to think so.

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ethel smith Level 3 Commenter 23 months ago

Interesting Mick

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MickS Hub Author 23 months ago

Thanks for the visit and comments.

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M.s Fowler 22 months ago

Neat hub!

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MickS Hub Author 22 months ago

Thanks for the visit M.s

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Storytellersrus Level 7 Commenter 22 months ago

I loved a comment one of my fellow graduate students made about a famous photograph containing a bird. She said photos capture a moment in time that will never come again, represented by the bird. Soon it would spread its wings and fly away and the scene would be forever changed. Capture the bird, she said.

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MickS Hub Author 22 months ago

that's right Story

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Lady_E Level 7 Commenter 22 months ago

Interesting read - It's amazing how you can edit photograph's these days.

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MickS Hub Author 22 months ago

Thanks for the visit Lady_E

Eric 22 months ago

interesting insight into a definition of photography, what it really is. I love that picture at the top, I haven't been to Parndon for years.

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MickS Hub Author 22 months ago

Thanks Eric

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James A Watkins Level 8 Commenter 21 months ago

Thank you for publishing this insightful article. I am glad to have read it.

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MickS Hub Author 21 months ago

Thanks for the visit and comment, James.

Mick 21 months ago

Excellent hub Mick

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MickS Hub Author 21 months ago

Thanks for the visit Mick:-)

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Storytellersrus Level 7 Commenter 21 months ago

I love this hub. I had to read it again. I also like your coffee choices!

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MickS Hub Author 21 months ago

Thank you Story

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agvulpes Level 3 Commenter 19 months ago

I have been taking photographs for over 60 years and seen many advances in that time :-) However I have never seen it discussed like you have in your Hub. Well done, you have given me new ways of thinking about this wonderful 'art form', which in my opinion it has now become :-)

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MickS Hub Author 19 months ago

Thanks for the visit and comment, ag...

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Elijah Returns 19 months ago

big heap of shite i have ever read

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MickS Hub Author 19 months ago

Thanks for the visit and comment, Elijah Returns.

You're entitled to your opinion on the matter, as am I. However, couldn't you have used better language to express your disagreement with the article, you've only shown the world your poor use of language and means of expressing yourself.

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Robertbloggert 17 months ago

I can't see the, purpose (note correct spelling) of this question as you have given your answer, and even if you didn't know, it is just as easy to try it yourself. Is this just a bit of over promotional rubbish to point people to your page?

Maybe you will see the rudeness of this comment, when it's applied in reverse.

Good hub by the way, keep up the good writing!

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MickS Hub Author 17 months ago

Thanks for the visit and comment Robert, it's good to see that you used better language that Elijah Returns. The comment to the question isn't rude, how can it be, when you enter a question, or, for that matter, answer one, you put yourself open to criticism. The bit about promotional rubbish is a question and is written as a question; I didn't say it was over promotional rubbish, I asked if it was.

This hub can't be over promotional because it isn't pointing people towards it. Is it rubbish? Well, it may be, you don't think so, thank you. Likewise, most of the people who have commented don't think it is rubbish.

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Be-Inspired 17 months ago

Interesting hub and I love the photograph at the top.

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MickS Hub Author 17 months ago

Thanks for the visit and comment, Mark.

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sord87 Level 1 Commenter 17 months ago

This looks very detail about photograph and digital camera.It capture my interest to explore and digg more about digital lifestyle and what digital can turns your life in such a way.Somehow your profile pics almost explain it all!TQ

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MickS Hub Author 17 months ago

Thanks for the visit and coment Sord

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John Sarkis Level 7 Commenter 4 months ago

Great hub...you hear people say "photograph" all of the times, but very few know the history behind it.... Thanks for this insightful hub -voted up

John

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MickS Hub Author 4 months ago

Thanks for the visit and comment John.

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Thanks for the visit and comment John.

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Gareth Pritchard Level 4 Commenter 3 months ago

I would say that in any kind of photography there is no painting involved in anyway what so ever and it is an exposure to light not a painting or painted. I would say that an ink jet printer is much closer to a painting, mechanical or not, than any photographic exposure.

I might consider drawn from light but not draw with light, to draw something is to move it, like drawing water, like moving a pencil is to move the pencil so as to draw, draw means to pull. Light is moving anyway so it is being focused not drawn.

I like the distinction you make but find it to be the other way round. Printed images are more like paintings of light and photographs are exposures of light.

Gareth.

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Thanks for the visit and comment Gareth.

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Just_Rodney Level 3 Commenter 2 months ago

I too have been taking photographs, since an early age, a Brownie box to be exact. I later used a Pentax, A Nikon, and did my own black and white printing.

All those proccess involved light, and light manipulation to get the desired effects, on the negative and onto the prints.

What digital has not done, it has not changed light or altered it the capturing on sensors is exactly the same as if it was onto film, each megapixle, is a created by Cyan Yellow Magenta K black pixelettes. Which is exactly what a 35mm Kodakchrome slide was.

Printing of any sort onto any fabric takes the intensenty readings of each of those pixels and deposits it in layers which recreate the selfsame captured image.

The process has not changed, it has moved along with all the technological changes since the seventies.

Sorry Photography then and photography now is still and will always be light drawings. Photomanipulation has only been stretched to match ones mind and or imagination.

Interesting hub though.

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MickS Hub Author 2 months ago

Thanks for the visit and comment Jusp_R.

As, I think I said in the original piece, film and photosensors collect and record light in the same way. I believe that the transfering that image to, in the one case, light sensitive paper and the other, inkjet paper are very different. The image produced on light sensitive paper is there from a direct action of light through a negative image, that isn't the case with inkjet prints from a computer image. The whole point of my argument is rooted in the meaning of the word photograph, drawing with light, light shining through a negative on to light sensitive paper is drawing with light, a computer instructing an inkjet printer to squirt a series of inks is not. It is good to see well thought out ideas, it wouldn't do for us all to see things the same.

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Just_Rodney Level 3 Commenter 2 months ago

Fair comment.

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oceansnsunsets Level 7 Commenter 7 weeks ago

Hi Mick, I hear all you are saying here, and it is very interesting to me! I love photography, and when in highschool had the privelege of working with chemicals in a darkroom. I recall wishing I only had more and more money to spend on the supplies but I was a high school student and didn't make much.

Now, I take photos all the time still, and I wonder how these differences between digital and actual photography play out in the long run for my photos. I don't like that some are just ink on paper, and sometimes the quality changes as your ink runs out, etc!

When these different images are left to the "elements" so to speak, say a damp basement, or bright light on the wall for years with sun shining on it, how do the images fare? Do you recommend a person like me having and using a film camera as well, even if I don't print my own? I still have some 35 mm film, for a 35 mm camera. I could get a much better one now, and take a roll here and there. I am thinking very long term, after I am long gone and great grandchildren may want to see photos, etc.

I love your photo at the top, wonderful.

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MickS Hub Author 7 weeks ago

Thanks for the visit and comment Ocean. I would always recomend having a film camera, quality and longevity of the results have already been proven. Digital is a useful tool and is essential for any form of commercial photography when they want stuff yesterday.

I use a Shen Hao 5x4 field camera for most of my work, mostly in B&W, at that size grain is virtually non-existant. For the few digital prints I produce from my Olympus E420, I use Epson Ultrachrome K3 pigment ink. Pigment ink, supposedly, has greater longevity than dye inks.

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katyzzz Level 4 Commenter 3 weeks ago

Amazing hub and you've certainly attracted a lot of attention with it, and that first image of yours is sensational, a true artiste

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MickS Hub Author 3 weeks ago

Thanks for the visit and comment Katyzzz

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